Complaints over time
Complaints about the 2005 IC CE peaked in 2005, with 2 filed
Owner complaints about this model year, by the year they were filed with NHTSA.
Source: NHTSA ODI complaints file. The lighter column runs through October.
Model year
2005 IC CE
Bus, diesel, built in United States. Owner complaints on file from Aug 2, 2005 to Apr 1, 2014.
Recall campaigns covering this model year16528k vehicles or units across those campaigns
Owner complaints55.0 times the median 2005 bus
Severity index0.02005 buss average 35.7
First 24 months2Complaints in its first two years
Components
40% of complaints about the 2005 IC CE name structure
Owner complaints by component. Hover or focus a bar for the crash, fire, injury or death count.
Source: NHTSA ODI complaints file. A complaint can name more than one component; it is counted under the first.
Recalls
16 recall campaigns cover the 2005 IC CE
Check a specific vehicle by VIN on NHTSA's site: a campaign may cover only part of a model year's production.
| Campaign | Filed | Subject | Component | Vehicles | Remedy |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15V-772 | Nov 19, 2015 | Affected lifts are equipped with folding link arms that may have pivot holes that are too big, allowing the bearings to move out of position | Adaptive equipment | 271 | Part replacement |
| 10V-267 | Jun 15, 2010 | Engine normally responds to a failed open accelerator position sensor circuit fault by returning the engine to low idle speed of 800 rpm and… | Speed control | 2,085 | Repair or modification |
| 10V-103 | Mar 16, 2010 | Navistar has notified nhtsa about a defect in certain model year 2010 and 2011 ic ce, be, and fe school buses manufactured from november 19, 2003… | Brakes | 5,016 | Software update |
| 09V-052 | Feb 10, 2009 | Affected heater units may fail in low speed operation causing elevated temperatures | Equipment | 61,316 | Not stated |
| 08V-353 | Jul 30, 2008 | These vehicles may exhibit engine hard start, no start, or stall conditions due to possibly damaged terminals in the fuse holder connector of the… | Engine and cooling | 24,975 | Part replacement |
| 08V-258 | Jun 5, 2008 | Potting material that encapsulates the circuit board of the vehicle's remote power module may not sufficiently seal the circuit board from water… | Electrical system | 51,588 | Repair or modification |
| 06V-189 | Jun 2, 2006 | Certain my 2004 through 2007 ce and be school buses and 1300 and 3300 model vehicle chassis manufactured by ic corporation between march 17, 2004,… | Brakes | 9,823 | Repair or modification |
| 05V-561 | Dec 20, 2005 | Certain 2005-2007 ce and my 2007 be school and transit buses manufactured between february 10, 2004, and december 15, 2005 | Structure | 1,918 | Repair or modification |
| 05V-130 | Mar 30, 2005 | Certain 2004-2006 my ic corporation ce, fe, and re school buses manufactured from may 12, 2003, through march 2, 2005, equipped with child… | Child seats | 1,142 | Part replacement |
| 05V-122 | Mar 28, 2005 | Certain 2003-2006 my ic ce, fe, and re school buses and re commercial buses manufactured between february 4, 2003, and march 1, 2005, and equipped… | Engine and cooling | 402 | Part replacement |
| 05V-041 | Feb 7, 2005 | Certain ic ce 2005 school buses manufactured between april 27 and october 13, 2004 | Brakes | 920 | Part replacement |
| 04V-498 | Oct 28, 2004 | Certain 1998, 2000-2005 my ce, fe, and re school buses built with one or more ce white 30-inch child restraint seats and manufactured between… | Seats | 154 | Repair or modification |
| 04V-469 | Sep 21, 2004 | Certain my 2001-2005 amtran/ic corporation ce, fe, and re school buses equipped with sure-lok wheelchair tie-down securement assemblies p/n 8625-13 | Adaptive equipment | 1,220 | Repair or modification |
| 04E-058 | Aug 6, 2004 | Certain sure-lok wheelchair tie-down securement assemblies p/n 8625-13 for use on certain school and transit buses | Adaptive equipment | 300,000 | Part replacement |
| 04V-359 | Jul 16, 2004 | On certain school buses built with vandale lock systems, the system does not provide an audio sound to warn the driver that the emergency door is… | Equipment | 538 | Repair or modification |
| 03V-354 | Sep 23, 2003 | Ce model school buses which fail to comply to federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 221, school bus body joint strength | Structure | 66,749 | Repair or modification |
Source: NHTSA ODI recalls file.
Owner complaints
What owners reported about the 2005 IC CE
The full text of every complaint filed with NHTSA about this model year, newest first. Complaints are filed by owners and are not verified by NHTSA; NHTSA removes personal details before publishing.
5 complaints on file, page 1 of 1.
- Filed Apr 1, 2014Failure Oct 28, 2013143,349 milesBeacon, NYBody
FLOOR SILLS CRACKED AT BODY TIE DOWNS, TIE DOWNS HOLD BODY ON TO CHASSIS FRAME. *TR
NHTSA complaint 10576393 - Filed Apr 1, 2014Failure Nov 7, 2013114,475 milesBeacon, NYBody
FLOOR SILLS CRACKED AT BODY TIE DOWNS, TIE DOWNS HOLD BODY TO CHASSIS FRAME. *TR
NHTSA complaint 10576383 - Filed Jan 29, 2007Failure Jan 29, 20074,450 milesTupelo, MSTurbo/supercharger
2005 INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL BUS ,4400 MILES ,TURBO FAILURE, REPLACED TURBO ACTUATOR, DEALERSHIP SAID CORROSION WAS THE CAUSE. *JB
NHTSA complaint 10181058 - Filed Oct 12, 2005Failure Dec 18, 20043,000 milesPeru, INSchool bus stop arm assembly
1. WHEN THE OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE GETS BELOW 20 DEGREES 2. STOP ARM MALFUNCTION ON BUS MEANS PUTTING CHILDREN IN DANGER 3. BUSES WILL BE PUT OUT OF SERVICE. *JB
NHTSA complaint 10139408 - Filed Aug 2, 2005Failure Dec 21, 20042,962 milesNorthampton, MAActuator
12/21/04 EMERGENCY BRAKE WOULD NOT RELEASE. 12/30/04 BUS TOWED TO NUTMEG INTERNATIONAL TO BE FIXED 1/31/05 BUSS FIXED/ REPLACED COMPUTER PART IN SYSTEM RETURNED TO SERVICE 2/10/05 BRAKE SERVICE LIGHT CAME ON AND THEN OFF/ CALLED DATTCO INC. THEY TOLD US TO CHECK FLUIDS AND LOOK FOR FLUID LEAKS. THERE WERE NONE LIGHT WENT OFF. 3/9/05 EMERGENCY BRAKE WOULD NOT RELEASE AT PARK OUT. BRAKE EVENTUALLY RELEASED 3/11/05 BUS WAS SENT TO DATTCO INC. IN CT FOR REPAIR 5/5/05 BUS RETURNED TO ME. DATTCO REPLACED FULL WIRING HARNESS IN BUS 6/10/05 EMERGENCY BRAKE LOCKED UP WHILE BUS WAS ON ROUTE WITH SCHOOL CHILDREN DOING 30 MPH WIT NO WARNING. LUCKILY NO ONE WAS HURT. MY MECHANIC AND MYSELF MANAGED TO LIMP BUS BACK TO GARAGE WERE WE CALLED DATTCO INC. 6/13/05 BUS TOWED TO DATTCO INC. IN CT 7/5/05 BUS RETURNED TO US. DATTCO REPLACED MORE COMPUTER PARTS 7/29/05 EMERGENCY BRAKE LOCKED UP DOING BETWEEN 25-30 MPH WITH STUDENTS ON BOARD AGAIN WITH OUT ANY WARNING NEARLY AVOIDING A MAJOR COLLISION AS THERE ARE NO BRAKE LIGHTS THAT COME ON. LUCKILY AGAIN NO ONE WAS HURT. 8/1/05 BUS TOWED TO DATTCO INC. IN CT I THINK THAT ALL INCIDENTS ARE RELATED AND AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE AND I AM HEARING THAT THIS IS NOT THE ONLY BUS THEY ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH THIS NEW EMERGENCY BRAKE SYSTEM. *NM
NHTSA complaint 10130964
Source: NHTSA ODI complaints file.
Investigations
2 NHTSA investigations on file
- PE08034 Preliminary evaluation, Electrical system
SCHOOL BUS STALLING
Opened May 9, 2008, closed Aug 28, 2008 · led to a recall - PE07034 Preliminary evaluation, Electrical system
DASH/INTERIOR FIRE
Opened Jul 10, 2007, closed Oct 12, 2007 · led to a recall
Source: NHTSA ODI investigations file.
Service bulletins
3 manufacturer communications cover this model year
Technical service bulletins and other notices the manufacturer sent to dealers. A bulletin is not a recall.
- IK-0500013 Mar 15, 2016 · Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions
IK0500013 - IROS SUSPENSION AUXILIARY LEAF SPRING RATTLE - IK-2200052 Sep 12, 2007 · Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions
INTERNATIONAL: THE EMERGENCY EXIT WINDOW SWITCH, ON CERTAIN BUSES, HAD ACTIVATED AND SENT A FALSE WARNING ALARM, DUE TO VARIOUS WINDOW/FRAME TOLERANCES. MODELS 2004-2005 CE,FE,RE. *PE - IK-2200087 Oct 21, 2009 · Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions
INTERNATIONAL: BUS ENTRANCE DOOR ADJUSTMENT PROCEDURES. THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES OUTLINE THE ENTRANCE DOOR BRACKET, CONTROL BAR, ACTUATOR ROD, ELECTRIC DOOR CONTROLLER, AND AIR DOOR CYLINDER AND VALVE ADJUSTMENTS. NO MODEL YEARS LISTED. *PE
Source: NHTSA manufacturer communications files.